RaspberryPi and FUD
Raspberry Pi is completely unpredictable – no-one outside an inner circle of employees and special friends knows what they are going to do next.
If you are outside of this “circle of trust” then there is no advance warning whatsoever about new products.
Because of the uncertainty, it becomes a bit tricky to run your business around Pi products or plan how to budget/deploy Raspberry Pi in schools.
I know a number of small business who have come up with ideas to improve the experience of using Pi products but have decided that they don’t know (or don’t trust the information given out) if their product will be invalidated in the near future
This is big one as it seems to be Raspberry Pi’s driving force.
They are fearful of criticism.
For some in-explicable reason, Raspberry Pi use EVERY means possible to castigate ANYONE who criticise them – since most critics are individuals and not other similar sized (or bigger) organisations then Goliath almost always wins and the little Davids get their heads handed to them on a platter!
They are also paranoid about the 30 year old Osborne Effect (Look it up in ancient history books). They use this fear to justify all their secrecy.
I don’t know about you – but I find these behaviours are not appropriate for a UK Charity that waves the “We are about Education” banner around.
To avoid historical totalitarian regime analogies – it like the Red Cross carrying guns in ambulances and driving past accident scenes because they are on the way to their next PR event.
You really don’t have a clue. You’re being ignored / blocked because you’re a massive troll that doesn’t have the faintest idea what he’s talking about. It’s frankly embarrassing to watch.
You seem to fail to grasp – even after good people have even taken the time to explain it to you on several occasions – even the basic concepts of how quite elementary things work. Charities, Business. Hiring policies. Get a clue before you start waving your troll stick.
There’s nothing unusual or special about The Raspberry Pi Foundation or Raspberry Pi Trading. Trading arms have been feeding profits into their charities for years. You can’t get angry with the charity because you’re personally affronted by whatever the trading arm has done. All this ‘split personality’ nonsense is pathetic.
Do you know what Apple or Google are going to do next? Do you think they should explain their market strategies to you personally? Do you think they should give a heads-up when they’re thinking of releasing a new product? Do you think you deserve to be in the inner circle because you bought into one of their products once?
All your righteous crusader stuff is painfully sad. All anyone with half a brain can see is twisted bitterness and tin foil-hat idiocy.
Do yourself a great favour and stop embarrassing yourself. Lesser companies would’ve hauled you up for liable for much less, but the bottom line is that no-one worth their salt takes the slightest notice of you, so what’s the point?
Perhaps they feel sorry for you or something and are taking the high ground by simply choosing to ignore you.
I’m pretty certain that I’m not being ignored and also that I do have some idea of what I’m talking about.
I’ve not had a lot of experience of dealing with a Charity thats for certain, but I’ve done a lot of hiring and I know the difference between fair selection interviews and just creating and giving jobs to friends and family members.
I can get angry (and am) about a Charity that blows its own trumpet loudly and often but hides behind commercial confidentiality when faced with any question it doesn’t want to answer.
Raspberry Pi is a charity – Apple and Google are commercial companies. We know more about Apple and Googles plans that we do Raspberry Pi. Apple don’t not talk about recently launched products. We do know that something is on horizon before a product arrives. And this is one of the most hated companies in the world!
Obviously I am bitter. I’m very bitter that all the hard work I put into getting Scratch to control add-ons on the Raspberry Pi is being thrown out of the window just because they don’t like me. I don’t like them but no way would I let my personal feelings impinge upon education of children as they have.
I’d LOVE for Raspberry Pi to come after me – but as we both know – company/charity policy is to denigrate me at every opportunity. And to get their friends to do it as well. My definition – my posts are not being ignored but I’d admire Raspberry Pi tactics
Raspberry Pi are so deep in their bunker- they’d need the Hubble Telescope to even see the high ground 🙂
Maybe next time – put your name to your comment?
Going back through your tweets and posts it’s quite obvious you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. The number of times people have had to correct you on your elementary mistakes and misunderstandings is quite revealing. Nothing personal – just an observation.
You’re misquoting, picking numbers out of thin air and generally fooling around with facts that the average consumer has no God-given right to be made privy of.
You keep forgetting that it’s one half charity, one half trading company. No limited trading company has to tell anyone how much / how many / why or where (or anything else for that matter). They never have. You can’t call foul just because the charity is doing good things. You don’t have to be a guru to appreciate that commercial confidentiality is vital for a myriad of reasons, not least in a hotly contested space such as this.
To suggest that they have ‘tactics’ surrounding you and that you’d love them to ‘come after you’ paints a pretty uncomfortable picture of your state of mind. Do you really not think even your local corner shop would have bigger fish to fry than your insipid outbursts? It amazes me you think you’re having any kind of impact than on your own standing within the maker community.
Have you spent any time thinking about why they might not like you? Do you understand that for someone to exist in the ‘inner circle’ as you call it probably requires a bit of decorum? Do you think your behaviour has ever fallen within those loose requirements?
You’ve suggested so many false and misrepresented things it’s very hard for me (and others too given the audible silence around your ramblings) to take you seriously.
For example, I’d be interested to hear what proof you have of Raspberry Pi only employing friends and family. That’s an outrageous charge considering they’re obviously (with just a few clicks of research) doing an employment drive for numerous positions as we speak! It really beggars belief.
I’d be interested to learn more about this so-called ‘bunker’ they’re hiding in too. All I can see is daily communication on the blog, constant communication on social media and a public forum packed with millions of community members all of which are contributed to by Raspberry Pi themselves. Hardly North Korea, is it?!
I want a Pi Zero as the next man/woman, but guess what – I’ll get one. The fact they’re in short supply doesn’t belie some kind of global conspiracy that you’re at the centre of uncovering.
For everything you’ve ever said on the subject I still only see a bitter and twisted individual on a fanatical mission to slight a company he clearly feels owes him a wage. And therein lies the problem – at no point have you once been able to back up your outrageous claims. The few times it has ever got anywhere near being ‘real’ (eg. having managed to snare someone into speaking to you on social media) you back down or change the subject.
I don’t know you from Adam or particularly care if you want to waste your time making tinfoil hats, but for Gods sake, do try and sort yourself out. You’re fighting a battle that doesn’t exist and digging a big dark hole for yourself in the process. In time you might come to regret that you didn’t do more with your time on this Earth than bang on a broken drum.
Go and throw yourself into a worthwhile project that spends your energy more positively. Either that or maybe you should use your apparently extensive knowledge and understanding of Raspberry Pi’s domain to create a viable competitor that could one day put them in their place.
Either way good luck with it (but do change the bloody record).
I obviously don’t know whether any of my theories are correct as Raspberry Pi will neither confirm or deny them- thats the problem – they keep it secret. “Nothing personal – just an observation.” you use of colourful personal abusive language in the title of your post suggests otherwise.
As we have no facts – conjecture is all thats left. As I’ve stated many times, I’m a stakeholder in all this – not just a customer – I work in education – they are an educational charity – we have a lot of shared goals (i’d hope). I can’t think of any proper and defendable reason as to why Raspberry PI can’t talk about why the PiZero was produced, the (too) low pricing and what say they genuinely expect to happen to production in the next 6 months. I’d be interested for you to come up with a something that would make giving out these answers any difference to any commercial sucess/failure
“You keep forgetting that it’s one half charity, one half trading company” Thats plainly false as I state it many times /day :). “No limited trading company has to tell anyone how much / how many / why or where (or anything else for that matter).” Correct – but I expect the charity to. And it cannot be true that all the information they won’t supply is commercially confiendential. You do remember that it is a charity that happens to have a commercial arm as opposed to a company doing chartiable work from time to time?
I know I’m having an impact – people who know me know I’m having an impact- people within Raspberry Pi know I’m having an impact. I’m not without standing within the community. Others are not in a position to publicy complain about Rasperry Pi tactics but if you think Tesco’s attitude and treatment of farmers is bad well you’ve not seen the dark side of Raspberry Pi 🙁
My behaviour has been bad/OK/good at various times. I avoided open conflcit with Raspberry PI for the sake of our whole community. Unfortunately, this has just allowed them to trample over even more people/companies. So I’ve decided to take a very public stand. I’ve done/said bad things about them and vice versa – hard to say who started it. I know on several occasions I’ve offered cease-fires and these have been rejected.
Name one falsehood that I’ve stated. The public silence is because people have seen what happens to someone who stands up to them 🙂 Its not silent in private 🙂
“For example, I’d be interested to hear what proof you have of Raspberry Pi only employing friends and family. ” Your having a giraffe arn’t you? Or have you really no idea how Raspberry Pi mostly recruit and appoint. Ask them to tell you how many jobs have been filled from public/open/fair interviews compared to friends and family appointments.
Em – All PiZero posts get closed. Raspberry Pi said they’d communicate any changes to 1
once /week shipping – they didn’t and refused to even answer as to why they didn’t. PR isn’t communication. At least North Korea communicate when they set off nuclear weapons 🙂
I’ve got a lot of PiZero but I want a LOT more for my schools. Its not a global conspiracy – it a Cambridge one
Me- back down – have you got me confused with someone else? Please tell me where I’ve dropped off and I’ll get straight back into it!
My regret was not starting sooner as it would have been easier to get change bit I fear they are so outrageolsy self-righteous that nothing will make them think that – wait – maybe we need to change direction a bit. Like I say -I’ve made it my life’s work now. Some people try to stop fracking. Its important that we all have a subject that we think is worth fighting for. I don’t know you from Adam either but that’s because you are posting anonymously
I have put a lot of effort into a worthwhile project- Raspberry Pi have thrown it away and are spending time and money (that could have been used to further education) in re-inventing it
I’m always looking for new ways of attacking them – if you come up with any good methods – pleae give me a shout 🙂
Personally, I agree with Simon.
I should mention that I have Pi Zeros, 5 of them in fact. I have no interest in obtaining anymore. Therefore my motivation is *not* about obtaining a Pi Zero for myself and having a tantrum.
Like Simon, my problem is about the behaviour of the RPF, not that I can’t obtain their products.
“I want a Pi Zero as the next man/woman, but guess what – I’ll get one. The fact they’re in short supply doesn’t belie some kind of global conspiracy that you’re at the centre of uncovering.”
When an employee publicly states categorically they will have “stock on the shelves” on “alternate weeks” (which there has not been), then I feel that people should have the right to question, more so if you are an Educator
HermanZ (German?!). Come on!!! Who are you kidding.
This post is highly amusing. You’re not getting any responses on Twitter because your week-long tirades of inane bullshit neither articulate nor advance your position. In fact, your petty persistence at denigrating the efforts of an organisation that has literally re-written the book on how low-cost commodity computer hardware can be produced is pushing away even that tiny fraction of your follower base that pays attention to your nonsense.
Please, continue screaming into the void. It’s nothing more than lurid entertainment for anyone with half an ounce of sense.
em – I am getting some responses on twitter
I’m not interested in a “follower base” IT is entirely up to people whether they want to hear what I’ve got to say or not.
If you honestly believe that RaspberryPi is faultless with their handling of launching the PiZero, then I think you’d be in a small minority.
They operate with no regard to the small businesses and software providers that have helped build them up into the organisation they are today.
None. Not even a little. Zilch.
I think people with sense would see a man wasting his time flailing against an invincible enemy. Some appluad the effort, others, like yourself laugh.
Its not as one-sided as you think or portray
Apologies if you actually are a separate entity to Simon, HermanZ, but all I’ve got to go in is a couple of episodes of likeminded trolling online to go. Nothing else. Seems suspect (but very happy to be proven wrong).
Simon: Simonly saying ‘I know xyz’ doesn’t make it true beyond the bounds of your own head – you have to back it up with evidence. Something you’ve continually failed to produce.
Likewise, simply stating that ‘you (as in I) have no idea how they employ’ isn’t evidence that they have questionable morals when it comes to employment. We’ve already established that you don’t know how they employ (since as far as Raspberry Pi is concerned for all intents and purposes you don’t actually exist). The evidence points to positions being publicly available as we speak. Besides, there’s no law that states that they must publicly employ in the first place – they can do it as they wish, just like any other limited company. They’re not the blooming council!
Raspberry Pi competes in a hotly contested space. Do you think EVERYONE’s going to be happy with what they do every step of the way? Of course not. So someone’s upset? Boo hoo. They run a business in the real world. Should anyone expect a free license to print money?!
You’ve said nothing to suggest that you have anything other than hatred of the trading company. What exactly has the charity done to make you throw your toys out of the pram? It still simply seems to me that you’re failing to distinguish between them.
It’s absurd to say that ‘it’s hard for schools to chose hardware’ when the Pi 2 is the obvious choice for schools (and was even confirmed as such when it was released). Have any schools had trouble obtaining Raspberry Pi 2s in the last 12 months? Have there been complaints of that nature from any other quarter? Pretty sure there haven’t.
There is no conspiracy. Pi Zero isn’t even a good solution for schools – it’s clearly designed for IoT / wearables / hacking and making small projects. Anyone who thinks they’re for schools is an utter fool.
Trading is to make money. The Foundation is there to spend that money helping children learn computer science. There is no rule that states that the trading arm can ONLY make products relevant to schools. They make mugs and T-Shirts too.
HermanZ isn’t me. I don’t hide. (unlike yourself of course)
What evidence is there for me to supply. Tricky to find some when Pi is so closed mouth. #Catch22
Em – this is so obvious that I didn’t think it needed to be stated – but Liz Upton.
“there’s no law that states that they must publicly employ in the first place – they can do it as they wish, just like any other limited company. They’re not the blooming council!”
No – but they are a charity – very few of the education team were chosen by open interviews (I don’t know of any but maybe a few were)
They are an educational charity – I really think being less open than the likes of Apple is inappropriate behaviour – this is my position (and many others)
Well, I just hate the way the charity works – very happy to take but extremely relucant to engage and treat stakehoders in a adult and professional manner
Em- have a look at my spreadsheet and notice the vast savings to be had by using PiZero. The Crumble is currently the best VFM for primary schools but the extra cost of a PiZero would be well worth it for projects such as remote sensors and robots. Now if PiZero NOT going to be available this school year then Crumble it is. We jsut want to know what the medium term plan is. Secondaries have already been hit this year by the Microbit delays and a lot of valuable teaching time has been lost as a consequence. it would be really nice if Raspberry Pi could just have a sensible Q&A session to get us out the the darkness
At £5 – the PiZero is an excellent devive for schools – makes cheap easy robots possible – kids can go into computer clubs and be given a pi to take home. The possibillities are endless.
Em – its a charity with a trading arm. They wern’t founded to make stuff for commercial use – its a by-product that’s helped fund their charitable work. it is hard to see how the PiZero with its extremely low margins will help their financial position and thats why a lot of us think a small price rise would actually be in everyones interest. In fact – if they rasied the price to $20 temporarily until production can be sorted then they’s make more money and slow dow nthe demand a little bit (Proably not by much as geeks would still buy one at $20)
I’m really not sure how to take any of this.
It obvious that you and others have plenty or personal opinions about how Raspberry Pi is run and how you think they should be doing things. Opinions are fine.
It seems you don’t like the company or its tactics so why continue to support it buying the product.
Y said it in other comments that there are plenty of other devices and options available now other than the Pi. Crumble, Microbit, Codebug. Schools now have much more choice now than they have ever had.
Have you considered spending your time and effort working on these new devices and draw a line under your Pi work and leave it behind.
You are spending a lot of time and effort highlighting your opinion about Pi, when as an educator I would much prefer you to spend time developing curriculum and ideas that could be used in classrooms.
It’s clear you have good ideas but the stream of opinion isn’t helping me in my classroom.
Thanks for your time.
“It seems you don’t like the company or its tactics so why continue to support it buying the product.” There’s lots of things in the world that people don’t like but continue to use as the product is good. There are a lot of people railing against those companies that use their products. Apple/Google/Microsoft jsut to name some of the biggies
“Have you considered spending your time and effort working on these new devices and draw a line under your Pi work and leave it behind.” Well I have Scratch software for them all and I flit between them depending on access to API’s. However, the PiZero is a complete game changer (if it is a true product and not just a hand grenade tossed in to bugger everyone else up!) So it becomes the next Holy Grail for physical computing due to its fantastic add-ons and software support so that’s why I’m pursuing info
I would as well – shame I can’t get Raspberry Pi to engage in any adult conversation. I’m willing anytime they are to start acting grown up.
Well – obviously all my diatribes reduce the amount of people listening to my good stuff but if you have any ideas on how to improve that (apart from saying nothing and walking away) then I’m all ears
I# m a great admiired of your educational efforts BTW 🙂
Thanks for approving my comment.
I understand you want Raspberry Pi to engage with you but I’m still not quite sure though what you want the Pi Foundation to do. You ask for greater transparency but I don’t really understand what that means.
I like the Pi and agree that the USB mode of the Zero opens up a lot of potential.
I’m a firm advocate of physical computing use in class but for me the easier the device is to use the more likely it is to be used by the average teacher. Any Raspberry Pi has a large barrier to entry that means for the great majority of primary schools who don’t have the likes of you, me or similar working for them they just won’t have the time or expertise to look at them seriously.
Its why Crumble and Codebugs are gaining more of my attention at the moment for primary. They work out of the box and you can get similar experiences for the children in class with much less set up need for higher levels of expertise.
You asked for ideas on how to improve people listening to you. Perhaps as a starting point ask yourself some questions and then depending on the answers look at the best way to move forward in a positive direction. Some questions are perhaps difficult to ask yourself but they may help you come to a solution on your own.
What makes you so passionate about using Raspberry Pi?
What are the benefits from continuing to challenge Raspberry Pi? What are the disadvantages?
What makes Raspberry Pi actions so problematic to the community?
What makes your actions so problematic to the community?
What would you like to happen in the future with Raspberry Pi?
Thanks again for your time.
Crumble/Codebug are great – I have classets of Crumble. But they are limited – PiZero can be turned into WiFi controlled device for just a few £ extra and could be turned into a Crumble compatible for £6 – just needs an motor controller and analog input board. Which would make the PiZero the one board to rule em all and saves software development efforts by the likes of me and many others.
“What makes you so passionate about using Raspberry Pi?”
So very versitle – only SBC with economic WiFi option
“What are the benefits from continuing to challenge Raspberry Pi?”
Get secretness overturned – get engagment with main stream educators and not just fringe of codeclubs etc.
“What are the disadvantages?”
Disadvantage is it will drive them further into the sand as they can’t seem to deal rationally with critisms.
W”hat makes Raspberry Pi actions so problematic to the community?”
The whole of the FUD – firms can’t make plans – educators can’t rely on them.
“What makes your actions so problematic to the community?”
I’m unsure of that – if I don’t want to listen to someone – I block them (without fanfare or ceremony of ranting on about it) That’s what Raspberry Pi have done to me.
A lot of the community are like me – unhinged geeks! So they are not going to lie down if someone attacks their favourite charity – its what Raspberry Pi rely on – a rabid set of people to do the nasty attacking for them (thats not to say they aren’t capable of doing it directly – just check out some old forum posts from them!)
“What would you like to happen in the future with Raspberry Pi?”
Proper engagement with stakeholders. At a minimum, the same level of heads up that we get from the likes of Apple (but I’d hope for a lot more than that since they are a charity)
Link to cost breakdown spreadsheet
Dear person with offensive email address (Simon……….) – please use a non-offensive one so that I can publish your comments – if you just want to insult me – it’d much easier to DM me on twitter
I’ve modified the spreadsheet to indicate that right hand side assume existing computer in schools (this genereally being the case in 99% of time)
As far as VGA adaptor goes – I’ve never been into a school with HDMI monitors so I think its valid to leave it in there.
You have left out the DVI monitors – HDMI to DVI is much cheaper – but you’re ignoring that option.
Well there’s lots of possibilities.I don’t have any DVI monitors in any of my schools. It would reduce the price down. I’ll add it in.
” I’m not without standing within the community.”
That may have been true once but the general feeling in the community now is that you’re becoming a bit of a laughing stock. Your rants and conspiracy theories are more talked about than the actual message you are trying to get across.
“Tilting at windmills” was one comment I heard recently. People may say different things to your face and publicly of course, but I’ve not been at a Pi/education event recently where anyone had anything positive to say about your recent behaviour. Words like “irrational”, “ranting” and “drunk Tweeting” are used. Others have pointed out that you seem to have let yourself go both mentally and physically in the last year or so, they were genuinely worried.
Pull yourself together Simon, take a break and get some help. Get a different perspective and see how ridiculous this whole thing is. Your life will improve a lot.
Well – thanks for the feedback. I’m actually a lot better mentally than a year or so ago but physically I am a bit worse off. Which makes give me more incentive to get on with the windmill tilting before I pop my cloggs!
If people that I think are friends are saying different things to my face than they are saying to others – well that’s a sad situation 🙁
It is in the interests of a lot of people financially dependant on RaspberryPi to denigrate me in public.
Were you by any chance on the lastest PiAcadamy at Manchester?
“It is in the interests of a lot of people financially dependant on RaspberryPi to denigrate me in public.”
This is what I’m talking about Simon- do you actually think that if someone sells Raspberry Pis / accessories / services that they will make more money if they pubicly denigrate you? Really? It’s one of your delusions that you’d like to be be true but is clearly irrational and has no basis in fact.
“Were you by any chance on the lastest PiAcadamy at Manchester?”
I may have been but don’t want to identify myself.
So you can’t produce evidence by your own admission. Is there not even a small part of you that could even conceivably concede that it’s because there is no evidence / conspiracy in the first place?
It sounds like you think Liz et al don’t like you. Have you stopped to wonder if you can really blame them? You conduct yourself in an exceedingly unlikeable fashion – what more could you expect?! Move on and learn from your mistakes. Kicking at a door that’s closed in your face isn’t going to help you.
In short, Ken speaks the truth. Does the fact that barely anyone is engaged with your social media rants (with likes / positive replies / retweets) not give you a hint to the relevance / strength of your ‘arguments’?
All that’s really evident is that you have a massive chip on your shoulder that Raspberry Pi didn’t fall at your feet when you expected them to (or offer you a job or whatever). It’s a sorry state, granted, but it happens to the best of them. The difference between them and you, though, is that they pick themselves up, dust themselves down and move on (and do things differently next time).
Finally, I’ll say it again: anyone who thinks Pi Zero is a suitable solution for schools is a fool. Any nutcase can do a spreadsheets demonstrating that any random £5 product is ‘better value’ than a £25 one – it doesn’t make it the RIGHT solution!
There is no confusion about what Raspberry Pis should be use in schools (and AFAIK there never has been) – you’re actively trying to create that FUD with posts like this. From what I can gather some of this resentment comes from a buddy who feels hurt at the launch of Pi Zero (which I’m guessing is a better alternative to their product?). Do you (and they) expect Raspberry Pi to halt all R&D to give everyone a turn at being successful?!
PS. Why on Earth would I want to reveal my identity to you?! I’ve seen the way you hound people/companies that say and do things you don’t agree with.
Before I answer your question and accusations – is there any chance of turning this into a civil, adult conversation about the pros and cons of Raspberry Pi
Now onto your comments
“So you can’t produce evidence by your own admission.” I can produce the evidence of Raspberry employing family. I can produce evidence that they employ a lot of friends without competative interviewing. These are open facts beyond dispute. I can produce evidence that Raspberry Pi is only letting firms that are its friends sell the PiZero. I can offer evidence that any discussion on PiZero availability/medium term future is being supressed. These are facts.
“It sounds like you think Liz et al don’t like you.”
em-yes:) PS I don’t like the persona she appears to portray and the extremely hideous way she is perceived to treat pesons who dare to criticise the Foundation.
I have it on good authority that she is absolutely fine as long as you agree with her
“Have you stopped to wonder if you can really blame them? You conduct yourself in an exceedingly unlikeable fashion”
It would be upto a jury to decide who started it/who said what to whom and who escalated things but I’d say it was pretty 50/50
” – what more could you expect?! Move on and learn from your mistakes. Kicking at a door that’s closed in your face isn’t going to help you. ”
I don’t expect my actions to help me – I’m campaigning on behalf of all the others who’ve had their teeth kicked in (metaphorically of course) A lot of these people have vested interests in Raspberry Pi computers and have built business up. And like Tesco farmers, they’ve felt the heavy hand come down on them 🙁
“In short, Ken speaks the truth. Does the fact that barely anyone is engaged with your social media rants (with likes / positive replies / retweets) not give you a hint to the relevance / strength of your ‘arguments’? ”
Well – I believe that Raspberry Pi Plan A is to stifle any discussion that criticises them. This is one of those facts. Getting all employees to not enagage with me is part of that strategy. Funnily enough me and Eben are able to have very polite and reasonable occasional transactions on twitter on non-Pi related subjects 🙂
“All that’s really evident is that you have a massive chip on your shoulder that Raspberry Pi didn’t fall at your feet when you expected them to (or offer you a job or whatever). It’s a sorry state, granted, but it happens to the best of them.”
I’ve never wanted a job with them – just wanted mutual respect and ability to work towards common goals. They don’t/didn’t want to do that – they want control and no dissension
“The difference between them and you, though, is that they pick themselves up, dust themselves down and move on (and do things differently next time).”
There’s no answer to this obvious error in judgement on your part. They are repeating the same errors over and over again and this last one (PiZero) is the worst so far – even beating the Pi2 debacle (no softweare developers got a heads up therefore a lot of things broke when it was launched)
Don’t get me wrong – the products (apart from Computer module and the Display) are great
“Finally, I’ll say it again: anyone who thinks Pi Zero is a suitable solution for schools is a fool.”
Do you work in a school? Have you experience of trying to get money for IT (that isn’t IPads)? Can you not see 4 x something could be better than 1x something twice as good?
“Any nutcase can do a spreadsheets demonstrating that any random £5 product is ‘better value’ than a £25 one – it doesn’t make it the RIGHT solution!”
Well I’ve been working with Arduino ins schools for 5 years – Pi for 3.5 years and Crumble for 1 year. PiZero would be fantastic as the main part of any physical computing primary project. And at £5 – the kids can buy one and take them home with them afterwards rather that removing the Pi2 from their robot at the end of a set of lessons.
I think anyone reading this would disagree with your comment that I am a fool to want to use them in primary schools
“There is no confusion about what Raspberry Pis should be use in schools (and AFAIK there never has been) – you’re actively trying to create that FUD with posts like this. From what I can gather some of this resentment comes from a buddy who feels hurt at the launch of Pi Zero (which I’m guessing is a better alternative to their product?). Do you (and they) expect Raspberry Pi to halt all R&D to give everyone a turn at being successful?! ”
Em – I have no buddy who’s hurt by launch of PiZero – the whole Pi secondary ecosystem has been damaged by the preferential treatment given to the 2 chosen suppliers. All traffic is going to their websites – people are having to buy over-priced extras just to get hold of a PiZero. Are these facts invisible to you?
“PS. Why on Earth would I want to reveal my identity to you?! I’ve seen the way you hound people/companies that say and do things you don’t agree with.” Well I believe in open discussion. I beieve twitter is like a large room where everyone can hear anyone else’s conversation and the T&Cs allows people to intervene in conversations – that’s what it is. If your not prepared to deal with the situatioin – don’t use it. Set filters (I do) Block people (I do)
Anyway – if we’d had to guess at yoru identity we’d all guess it was the same person who used the same language on twitter as you used here.
Either that or its a might big co-incidence.
But you are free here to post what you want (I will edit bad language) either annoymously or not.
Think how this privilage wouldn’t be extended to you on the Pi forums 🙂
You don’t seem to like the emails address ‘simon.wa..email@example.com’? What is so offensive, apart from the name ‘Simon’ and the letters ‘wa’ and ‘ers’. None of that is offensive.
For some strange reason. My computer is auto correcting it to offensive word. I’ll check the settings. Sorry for any trouble is caused you. Looks OK now
I have just realised why you do not like us Germans. Our names don’t always translate well!
Ich liebe Deutchesland.